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		<title>By: Corey</title>
		<link>http://www.crossfitasheville.com/2010/07/25/to-stretch-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-4152</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 00:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Nerve tension/adhesion

I would not advise using those devices if the burning travels.  Irritation and damage can occur as well... I sometimes have to tell people NOT to foam roll so much.  If using them causes the burning to travel, set up an appointment with me and we&#039;ll address it further.  Sometimes it can be pain referral of a tender muscle point(trigger point), other times it is an irritation of nerve damage.  The location matters a great deal in this manner.

If a nerve is damaged you must remove what is causing the damage:  This could be training beyond what your technique allows, training intensity that is beyond the available recovery capacity, or simply an excess of damage/dysfunction in the past that must be removed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Nerve tension/adhesion</p>
<p>I would not advise using those devices if the burning travels.  Irritation and damage can occur as well&#8230; I sometimes have to tell people NOT to foam roll so much.  If using them causes the burning to travel, set up an appointment with me and we&#8217;ll address it further.  Sometimes it can be pain referral of a tender muscle point(trigger point), other times it is an irritation of nerve damage.  The location matters a great deal in this manner.</p>
<p>If a nerve is damaged you must remove what is causing the damage:  This could be training beyond what your technique allows, training intensity that is beyond the available recovery capacity, or simply an excess of damage/dysfunction in the past that must be removed.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 00:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you will see in later posts... the protective tension is dealt with on a daily basis.  In my experience, a lot can be gained with proper technique, full ROM, strength training/conditioning but there is a window of ability available.  Things like foam rolling, lax ball work, yoga and other meditation/relaxation movements can decrease neurological tension but do little for actual reduction of mechanical tension (to be discussed later).

For now, my training frequency is based largely on how tight I feel.  

-If I feel fine without warming up I go at 100% in WOD&#039;s.

-If I feel a little tight, but fine while warming up, I&#039;ll go 80-90%.

-If I feel pretty tight, like I notice it regularly throughout the day, and am fine after a warm-up I&#039;ll go at 50-70% effort... really not pushing but moving through the activity.

-If I&#039;m tight after the warm-up, I take a rest day.

Notice I never train above 100% or below 50%.  My stiffness is directly related to my sleep, diet, mental stressors, and recent training history.

I am FAR more mobile than I used to be and don&#039;t do much yoga or stretching.  I DO train through full ranges, and have had quite a bit of manual therapy (to be explained later).  When I first started, I ignored the tight muscles and thought it was &quot;cool&quot; to workout while incredibly sore (sore/stiff after the warm-up)... it didn&#039;t get me anywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you will see in later posts&#8230; the protective tension is dealt with on a daily basis.  In my experience, a lot can be gained with proper technique, full ROM, strength training/conditioning but there is a window of ability available.  Things like foam rolling, lax ball work, yoga and other meditation/relaxation movements can decrease neurological tension but do little for actual reduction of mechanical tension (to be discussed later).</p>
<p>For now, my training frequency is based largely on how tight I feel.  </p>
<p>-If I feel fine without warming up I go at 100% in WOD&#8217;s.</p>
<p>-If I feel a little tight, but fine while warming up, I&#8217;ll go 80-90%.</p>
<p>-If I feel pretty tight, like I notice it regularly throughout the day, and am fine after a warm-up I&#8217;ll go at 50-70% effort&#8230; really not pushing but moving through the activity.</p>
<p>-If I&#8217;m tight after the warm-up, I take a rest day.</p>
<p>Notice I never train above 100% or below 50%.  My stiffness is directly related to my sleep, diet, mental stressors, and recent training history.</p>
<p>I am FAR more mobile than I used to be and don&#8217;t do much yoga or stretching.  I DO train through full ranges, and have had quite a bit of manual therapy (to be explained later).  When I first started, I ignored the tight muscles and thought it was &#8220;cool&#8221; to workout while incredibly sore (sore/stiff after the warm-up)&#8230; it didn&#8217;t get me anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: miriam</title>
		<link>http://www.crossfitasheville.com/2010/07/25/to-stretch-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-4149</link>
		<dc:creator>miriam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post is really helpful, Corey. I think this one needs to be reinforced in class often. 

I&#039;m interested not only in your specific response to Carly. Are there some general rules of thumb to share with us or does this require a highly individualized response?

Regarding the nerve problem such as radial nerve issues, is using a lacrosse ball and foam roller advised even though it burns sharply? And where to apply these up and down the arm? The nerve feels very exposed at the elbow and thus more tender but not at other points on the arm.

tx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is really helpful, Corey. I think this one needs to be reinforced in class often. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested not only in your specific response to Carly. Are there some general rules of thumb to share with us or does this require a highly individualized response?</p>
<p>Regarding the nerve problem such as radial nerve issues, is using a lacrosse ball and foam roller advised even though it burns sharply? And where to apply these up and down the arm? The nerve feels very exposed at the elbow and thus more tender but not at other points on the arm.</p>
<p>tx</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
		<link>http://www.crossfitasheville.com/2010/07/25/to-stretch-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-4148</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have realized that (until recently) I have treated foam rolling and mobility drills as part of my warm up. I understood the purpose of these drills as freeing up tension to reach full ROM. I am really glad these were listed separately in this post. 

It has been a recent lesson learned for me, but has been very helpful in muscle recovery to continue these during the day. I also have recently learned that mobility drills should not be replaced by stretches (supplemented is more correct).

CFA is an incredibly special gym because of the daily access we have to a wonderful teacher and doctor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have realized that (until recently) I have treated foam rolling and mobility drills as part of my warm up. I understood the purpose of these drills as freeing up tension to reach full ROM. I am really glad these were listed separately in this post. </p>
<p>It has been a recent lesson learned for me, but has been very helpful in muscle recovery to continue these during the day. I also have recently learned that mobility drills should not be replaced by stretches (supplemented is more correct).</p>
<p>CFA is an incredibly special gym because of the daily access we have to a wonderful teacher and doctor.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out in Cali, and still learning from you guys!  Thanks Corey.  One question on paleo, does goat milk become paleo if you milk it yourself?  Damn, I hope so.... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out in Cali, and still learning from you guys!  Thanks Corey.  One question on paleo, does goat milk become paleo if you milk it yourself?  Damn, I hope so&#8230;. <img src='http://www.crossfitasheville.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Carly Albee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carly Albee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been thinking alot about this lately. I upped my workout schedule from 3 days a week to 5 days a week.  I haven&#039;t noticed many gains even though I have been working out almost twice as much.  I have been tight most of the week.  I have pondered switching back to 3 days a week but doing yoga on tuesday and thursday. I don&#039;t think I have been doing enough stretching to support the amount of work I have been doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been thinking alot about this lately. I upped my workout schedule from 3 days a week to 5 days a week.  I haven&#8217;t noticed many gains even though I have been working out almost twice as much.  I have been tight most of the week.  I have pondered switching back to 3 days a week but doing yoga on tuesday and thursday. I don&#8217;t think I have been doing enough stretching to support the amount of work I have been doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annie S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations to Shanna for her AMAZING finish in the Bele Chere 5K!!!!!
http://www.citizen-times.com/article/20100724/SPORTS/100724013/Bele-Chere-women-s-overall-results</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations to Shanna for her AMAZING finish in the Bele Chere 5K!!!!!<br />
<a href="http://www.citizen-times.com/article/20100724/SPORTS/100724013/Bele-Chere-women-s-overall-results" rel="nofollow">http://www.citizen-times.com/article/20100724/SPORTS/100724013/Bele-Chere-women-s-overall-results</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kim S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great information!  You should add a tab to this site so members can reference this and your other informative posts months from now.  Thanks for the education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great information!  You should add a tab to this site so members can reference this and your other informative posts months from now.  Thanks for the education.</p>
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